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title: How to Talk with Clients About Retirement Beyond Money
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Investments & Wealth Review - Number 04, 2026

# Lost for Words

Why the Retirement Conversation Has to Change

Hal E. Hershfield, PhD

Most retirement meetings still run on three questions: How much have you saved? When do you want to retire? How much income will you need? Hal E. Hershfield, a UCLA Anderson professor who studies how people relate to their future selves, asked what clients would add. In research with Prudential Financial, more than 3,000 people held AI-driven conversations with simulated retired versions of themselves. They talked about freedom, relationships, purpose, and staying independent, and treated money mostly as the means to get there.

 

Hershfield then measured how much of that reaches the meeting room. Using Jump AI, his team analyzed 2,781 advisor–client conversations that touched on retirement. Planning took most of the time. He closes with five conversations advisors can add.

 

**Key Takeaways**

- Participants described retirement as a major life transition. Age, income, and race explained relatively little of the variation in how they described it.
- In 2,781 meetings averaging 55.2 minutes, well-being took up less than 1 percent of meeting time despite emerging as a leading priority.
- Five conversations worth adding: identity, freedom, relationships, independence, and meaning.
- Fewer than half of investors want advisors focused only on financial matters, and 60 percent of Gen Z investors see advisors as potential life coaches.

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